Comments on: The LGBTQQIAAP (or LGBTTIQQ2SA) Community, and Why http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/ The basics, in plain English, with a splash of humor Fri, 11 Dec 2015 04:47:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.2 By: Preston Grant http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-7358 Fri, 11 Dec 2015 04:29:42 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-7358 Always more good people welcome at the party. ;) ]]> By: Thomas grayden http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-7152 Tue, 01 Sep 2015 00:45:30 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-7152 #LGBPTTQQIIAAB.. People allways forget Bi-andrian… ]]> By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-6984 Mon, 18 May 2015 20:51:49 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-6984 Nicely said on the difference between tolerance and inclusion – really seeing and understanding other people forces a change in me, the viewer. Awesome. ]]> By: Michael Noman http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-6982 Sun, 17 May 2015 18:47:58 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-6982 Thank you for the respectful discussion and blog. As a queer person of US and French citizenship born in Bahrain I appreciate a “Protist” view which is inclusive. BTW, over the past week I opened up to the conceptualization that diversity:tolerance::inclusion:acceptance (in formerly? used analogy format. Diversity encourages a culture of “tolerance” whereas inclusion forces more of a sense of inclusion because if I choose to include something in my world then I need to actively embrace changes in me brought on by that change of world-view. ]]> By: Pine http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-6931 Tue, 05 May 2015 06:46:49 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-6931 Re: Transgender vs. transgendered – I would not call a man attracted to other men ‘gayed’ but I would call someone with red hair ‘red-haired.’ Gender is a noun, not an adjective, so adding a descriptor to make it an adjective, it gets the -ed ending. ]]> By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-6550 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 00:04:30 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-6550 Funny how everyone has their own idea of what makes a community, huh. So often it depends what we are defining – the entire sprawl of community, or the divided subgroups within. In my experience of true Allies, they often relate to the LGBT+ community in some powerfully personal way, even in ways they cannot fully articulate. So if there is something inside them that feels like they want to be included, then I say Welcome! ]]> By: stephen http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-6549 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 23:55:17 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-6549 allies do not belong in this ]]> By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-6223 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 02:38:16 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-6223 Agreed @Louis Inks. I love the saying: there is no Them, there is only Us. ]]> By: Louis Inks http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-6188 Sun, 01 Feb 2015 04:21:32 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-6188 I have the perfect name that covers everyone and leaves no one out! HUMAN There is no need to try and separate us out. We have always wanted to just be included and not left out. So why ate we still trying to separate ourselves out even more. The tone has come for the world to stop thinking of it as straight and xxxxxxx! They are pay off it just add much as we all are. Forget all the labels and just get back to having respect for all humans again! ]]> By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-6149 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 02:39:00 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-6149 Beautiful, @Randy. Yeah, I would love a term that means “all the bell curve – the ones in the mainstream middle, and the ones on the varying edges.” Diversity Inclusive is a nice framing of it. ]]> By: Randy http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-6125 Wed, 28 Jan 2015 03:05:56 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-6125 How about the “I.O.D” (Inclusive of Diversity) or “L.G.D” society? (Loving Great Diversity) Either contains a few letters so they maintain comprehension and recognition to the established group. They do not target sexuality which in many ways is so unnecessary anyways and either would simplify what is hard to define. And hopefully, one day, we won’t need a reason to classify these great people to protect their rights and all this will become a turning point in history. ]]> By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3431 Thu, 02 Oct 2014 20:01:35 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3431 Thank you @Sergey, you are right. And it is funny to note my own edumucation on the subject, as I would not write ‘transgendered’ today, but obviously wasn’t clear on the distinctions when I wrote this. Good catch. And… There, I fixed it! ;) ]]> By: Sergey http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3304 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:30:22 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3304 Just a quick note! While I understand that it may not be a big difference of huge deal, but saying “Transgendered” is incorrect. It’s plainly transgender or a transgender person. Just like you wouldn’t call a homosexual man “gayed” or a heterosexual “straightened”. Just trying to educate!! :) Also this is great! Thanks a bunch. ]]> By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3249 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 02:53:21 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3249 I so agree with you @Gary. It feels like there is a dynamic tension between getting labels more and more specific and therefore fully respect each individual’s experience, verses the umbrella terms that encompass everyone and promote a more singular solidarity. In a way I think the answer is both/and: We are both all these little groups, and this one big group. But people tend to prefer either/or thinking, and it is harder to get them to a more functional view that sometimes humans are best described with broad generalizing strokes that catch the big picture, and sometimes best rendered in high resolution detail that captures what makes individuals so fascinating. ]]> By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3245 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 01:28:10 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3245 Exactly @The Queer. The list of who we want to include is endless.

And graysexual was new to me. From the Urban Dictionary I got: “Whereas sexual orientation exists along a continuum of heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual, sex drive also exists along a continuum. Some people (highly sexual) desire to have sex with anyone they can; some people (strictly asexual) have no sexual desires; graysexuals are predominantly asexual but capable of manifesting sexual desires under specific circumstances. This is not to be confused with an asexual that is satisfying a partner’s sexual desires despite lacking sexual desire of their own.” I am ever impressed by our ability to come up with new ways of nailing down the details. Thanks for that one!

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By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3243 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 01:16:42 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3243 @robist… I learned a new word! I had to go look up Protist: a kingdom or large grouping of organisms. Thank you for that!

I agree a meaningful taxonomy for the human condition would be brilliant, but I think our efforts to organize human life into strictly defined categories is an ongoing effort that never reaches a satisfying conclusion. See the ongoing work around the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) for an example of how hard, and ultimately unsatisfying, that project is.

In the end I think human life defies strict categorization, and I for one celebrate that we are so joyful, abundant, digressive, and defiant that we defy easy categorization! Or at least I know I do. ;)

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By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3242 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 01:09:10 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3242 @Blake. Actually that is not quite right, as many people do not feel like they are an L, G, B, or T, yet absolutely feel part of the community. People whose sexuality is more fluid, for example, don’t feel like they fit in the little boxes, yet they clearly belong. They may call themselves Queer without wanting to be pigeonholed as Gay. That is what inclusiveness means to me… figuring out how to make sure everyone gets included in a way that makes them feel respected just as they are. ]]> By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3241 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 01:05:20 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3241 Good points, @ki. This was written a while back and my own learning curve has progressed. I have updated the blog post accordingly. ]]> By: Preston http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3240 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:59:16 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3240 Me too, @Eliza! ]]> By: Todd http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3206 Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:16:45 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3206 Thank you for including asexuality in this. It gets left out too often. ]]> By: The Queer http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3205 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 01:30:15 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3205 wait how come we have a space for Allies but not for demi/gray/lithsexual people? Or genderqueer/nonbinary/bigender/genderfluid people? ]]> By: Gary http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3204 Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:17:31 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3204 I liked your use of “LGBT+ community”. Lets include everyone and keep the acronym short and easy to use. The extra long ones puts too much emphasis on the differences in our community. ]]> By: rabers http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3199 Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:22:20 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3199 We could (and should, no, NEED to) make up a category like Protist on biology. Something (a SINGLE NAME) that comprises everyone. You can’t honestly think everyone is going to write, or even less likely say L G B T Q Q I A A P 2 S A (what is that last A about, again?!?) every time they’re in the need to mention people from all of those communities as a single group (which clearly we can discuss aren’t other than in respect to talking about sexuality and not being heteronormative). I mean, honestly, I can’t even remember half of the letters when I need to or find myself in this situation… and I’m an MD, so I am accostumed to acronyms, medical terminology and latin (aka weird, long as fuck and very very specific) terms. ]]> By: Blake http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3198 Sun, 13 Apr 2014 12:48:27 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3198 LGBT covers all of it. The rest is redundant or unnecessary. Q=G, P=B, allies are nice but should not be included. Asexual are just that, and does questioning really need to be included? They are either LGBT or S and just don’t what yet. 10 letters makes a mockery of it and it’s embarrassing. ]]> By: ki http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3196 Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:54:42 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3196 “•I: Intersex. People born into bodies that are not clearly, or only, male or female; hermaphrodites.”

Actually, we no longer use the term hermaphrodites to describe intersexed individuals or those with ambiguous genitalia. Hermaphrodites are organisms such as the earth worm that have full male and female reproductive systems. Humans are incapable of being born with full reproductive systems so in essence the term does not apply.

“•2S: Two-spirit. The visionaries and healers of aboriginal communities, the gay and lesbian shamans. ” 2spirit is a broad term and can also have different meanings. Basically, it means someone who is genderfluid or genderqueer; someone that does not fit into the binary boxes of male and female from a First Nation perspective.

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By: Eliza http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3195 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 05:52:13 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3195 Thanks for this explanation. There are so many letters! I just wish we could all come up with something a little easier to remember… ]]> By: Pride Prom celebrates diversity of SF State | Golden Gate Xpress http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3194 Wed, 05 Mar 2014 05:41:43 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3194 […] Prom is the prom that the LGBTQQIAAP students may not have been able to comfortably participate in during high school,” said […] ]]> By: Students lose inhibitions at fourth annual Pride Prom | Golden Gate Xpress http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3193 Tue, 04 Mar 2014 07:56:48 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3193 […] Prom is the prom that the LGBTQQIAAP students may not have been able to comfortably participate in during high school,” said […] ]]> By: Selina Van Laecken http://www.gayexplained.com/lgbtqqiaap-community/#comment-3188 Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:10:05 +0000 http://www.gayexplained.com/?p=683#comment-3188 The whole is the sum of its parts, meaning that the further we divide our community into smaller creationary sects, the more difficult it will be to gain the inalienable rights we have been denied for so long. The TTIQQ2SA community should be recognized and I believe everyone would agree with me however it is important not to lose focus of the bigger picture. We all want the same thing. Wouldn’t it be easier to just leave it at LGBTAVOP. Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered and All Varieties Of People. Recognition of our Individuality can be easily attained amongst ourselves.

The more I read and re-read the acronym, the sillier it becomes. Under the definitions described above wouldn’t Pansexual and Bisexual be the same thing? Or when Queer or Asexual people choose someone to be with would they then drop the Q or A and adopt one of the L, G, B or T letters? Absurdity afoot.

The decision to include Allies, Questioning and 2 Spirit is also confusing to me. Last time I checked all people following into one of the above categories are still able to marry, adopt children, be covered under their partner’s insurance or are generally accepted into mainstream society.

In the quest to be distinguished as each being a seperate group worthy of distinction we further move from the end objective which is not to be different from heterosexuals but to be included as people “worthy” of the same rights as others.

That is all.

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